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HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Laterreur » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:23 am

Hey! I have a lot of ghosting in my pinbot. in the centerd matrix and in the left 25k,50k, 75k, extra ball hole. Can anybody explain me where the ghosting come from technically? I want to understand the concept. Also, do you have a cure?

See in the picture of the matrix, the green line is not turn on but there is light anyway in it. This is what we call ghosting?

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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Fifty » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:39 am

Are you using incandescent or LED bulbs?
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby pharoah007 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:46 am

LED's?
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Laterreur » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:20 am

LED. The pin was already on LED when I get it.
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby redketchup » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:54 am

You need to buy non ghosting led...

not sure if I'm ok... but LED bulb need a lot less courrant to be on, on you lamp circuit, there is always a little courant in it, not enought to activate the incadescent bulb, but enought to activated led...
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Fifty » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:42 am

You could also buy an LED OCD board from Herg. This will eliminate ghosting LEDs.

http://ledocd.com/cart/index.php?main_p ... ucts_id=23

However, the line of "ghosting" green LEDs you are showing in your photo seems very vibrant. To me, this doesn't seem like ghosting. Ghosting is more subtle, even when using the cheapest LED bulbs on the market. I would try taking the green LEDs out and replacing them with normal bulbs. If this doesn't solve your problem then you have another issue.

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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby 4eyes » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:58 am

My Whirlwind did that, some leds where almost fully on that shouldn't be. The LED OCD fixed it perfectly.
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Laterreur » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:09 pm

In my opinion, its more than ghosting. Maybe a transistor problem somewhere....
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Azatotht » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:18 pm

Laterreur wrote:In my opinion, its more than ghosting. Maybe a transistor problem somewhere....


Change them to incandescent and see if they still do that ?? Sounds easy enough..

I really fail to see the point of having leds if they ghost like that. Then you'll have the 2 options mentioned before.
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Laterreur » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:51 pm

Thanks
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Azatotht » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:57 pm

Laterreur wrote:Thanks


Any updates ? Did you try to change them back ? it's a really interesting thread, please let us know what your findings are :mrgreen:
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Re: HELP Ghosting Pin-Bot

Postby Laterreur » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:14 pm

Did not have time yet to work on Pinbot. I will update that thread when I complete my troubleshooting
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