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Re: Matching parts to members (And you know that notion, just crossed my mind)

Postby R.A.B. » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:46 am

Stumbled upon 50, yes fifty N.O.S. coils for Chicago Dynamic Industries (Chicago Coin later to become Stern in 1977).

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"Aye Captain, there be coils here." "Shut up and eat your god-dam fish Billy, you smart ass child actor."


Well, that is not so interesting, and it is pretty common to find new and old dusty parts here, especially coils. Lots of those around and classifying them is a not a task for the faint hearted.

What is of real interest here is the coil number.

J-22-550 (wire gauge 22 at 550 turns) was a very common winding used in many William EM games, mostly on stepper units. Williams used part number A-22-550 which is the same damn thing. So this CCM coil can be substituted to work just as well in EM Williams games and early Stern games as well.

$ 4.00 each - stock up, I know I will.

At that price the coil does not come with a sleeve. If you need some, they are .85/each.
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Re: Matching parts to members (And you know that notion, just crossed my mind)

Postby R.A.B. » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:07 am

Same deal for these.

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Lots of these N.O.S. CCM coils in stock


FJ-24-850 & FJ-25-1050

Lots in stock, and again - the first # is the wire guage and the second number the turns. Bally and Williams and Stern used these coil windings, it is just that the wrapper on these N.O.S. coils say C.D.I. (Chicago Dynamic Industries) which I think is kind of cool.
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Postby R.A.B. » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:44 pm

On a side note, I won't be at Alouette tomorrow by exception. (reg schedual is Mon/Wed/Fri), but you can text me, e-mail or PM your questions/requests. Always glad to help members who are clear and cool as Northern running streams. Just give me a little time to answer, I will be on and off the grid tomorrow watching the river flow.

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Re: Matching parts to members (And you know that notion, just crossed my mind)

Postby R.A.B. » Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:37 pm

Another elusive little part has been found in the bowels of the parts shelves.

P-7939-1 Bally in-line drop target assy. nut and spring bracket

Well, a picture is worth more than my words right now. Apparently there is a left and a right to this thing, part number above is for the left one, and as you can see just above that there are two sides to this story.

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$5.00/ea. (not available at your regular parts store) :D
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Postby R.A.B. » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:54 pm

Found more odd ball new old stock today. So even after 6 months of employment, I am still surprised. (That is a good thing to maintain later in life.)

Plastic rod & ring ? No one in their right mind would use these, right ? LOL Must be a bunch of salesman samples I found today.

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Re: Matching parts to members (And you know that notion, just crossed my mind)

Postby redketchup » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:51 am

Oh que c'est beau!!!!
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Postby R.A.B. » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:07 am

redketchup wrote:Oh que c'est beau!!!!


Oui c'est vrai que c'est beau, même si ont sait que ca va briser. :(

Les découvertes continue dans ce man cave.

Content d'être le gars a "faire la job" de décoder tous ca avec vous autres.

Et aussi très content de trouver un sens a ma job et de ne pas avoir a justifier mes choix et decisions au boulot, et surtout de pouvoir sauver des pièces du container et le diriger dans les bons mains. :lol:
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Re: Matching parts to members (And you know that notion, just crossed my mind)

Postby R.A.B. » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:12 am

More weirdness found upstairs of the parts dept. near the bingo machine graveyard.

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Yes it is a ball arch gate assembly, I was just wondering if anyone knows for which game. This lonesome thing has got some kind of guard spot welded on at exactly the same angle on all 5 units which I have found here so far. The guard is made of steel, not spring steel, so I assume is was to prevent a ball from getting into a lane below the guard.

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My guess is that it is a Bally part, but.....

Any ideas ?
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Re: Matching parts to members (And you know that notion, just crossed my mind)

Postby Drano » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:35 am

I forgot about this thread.
I'm slowly getting my prototype Bally Heavy Metal Meltdown back to its former glory and one of the biggest hacks on this machine are the flipper mechs.
The right one has been completely replaced with a gottlieb mech. Would love to get a right side Bally flipper mech and two correct coils if you have any.

Other smaller needs include the white plastic tub that covers the on/off switch from inside on these older Bally games.

And... the black plastic "cup" that the main power cord feeds through on the back of most system 11 machines would be a great find too!

Thanks Robert!

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Postby R.A.B. » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:01 am

Drano wrote:I forgot about this thread.
I'm slowly getting my prototype Bally Heavy Metal Meltdown back to its former glory and one of the biggest hacks on this machine are the flipper mechs.
The right one has been completely replaced with a gottlieb mech. Would love to get a right side Bally flipper mech and two correct coils if you have any.

Other smaller needs include the white plastic tub that covers the on/off switch from inside on these older Bally games.

And... the black plastic "cup" that the main power cord feeds through on the back of most system 11 machines would be a great find too!

Thanks Robert!


Hey Drano - chances are good that I will be in T.O. for the Church's swap meet.

Part numbers for your flipper requests (plates and coils) would be appreciated, makes the likelihood of getting the wrong parts less likely since this is Bally/Midway weirdness. I think that they were still using in-line flipper assemblies I would guess. Coil number would be your standard AQ25-500/34-4500, please confirm.

I can figure out the "tubs" & "cups" from your description.

On another note -

Found a whack of these as well, all N.O.S. - I can sell these for $ 5.00 each.

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Postby Drano » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:39 am

Sorry Robert.
For the life of me I could not find the Flipper coil designation in the manual. They just give a part # for the entire assembly with no specifciation for the coil. It's this one (for the right one anyway)

https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinbal ... E-1587-102

I've even combed through the schematics to see if I can locate it.
Sadly, the original coils don't even have the wrappers any longer.


BTW.
If you have any of those Stern pop bumper mechs you posted above with the palstic rings, I'll take some. I shot you a PM.
I will be at the church and can certainly grab the stuff from you there.

Thanks!

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Postby R.A.B. » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:55 am

Drano wrote:Sorry Robert.
For the life of me I could not find the Flipper coil designation in the manual. They just give a part # for the entire assembly with no specifciation for the coil. It's this one (for the right one anyway)

https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinbal ... E-1587-102

I've even combed through the schematics to see if I can locate it.
Sadly, the original coils don't even have the wrappers any longer.


BTW.
If you have any of those Stern pop bumper mechs you posted above with the palstic rings, I'll take some. I shot you a PM.
I will be at the church and can certainly grab the stuff from you there.

Thanks!


PM sent about the pop bumper assemblies. (There is a bit of bidding going on for these amongst the "purists")

Found a picture of your machine on ipdb.org which you contributed and they do look like in-line flippers (except for the Gottlieb assy on the right- lol)

https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1150&picno=69965

The coil number would likely be the one I mentioned, so if you need just the flipper base mounting plate plate and coil, I have both here. If you need the whole flipper assembly with the parts mounted on the plate, I think I have one as well.

Another possible match made.

This thread is sort of like a dating site for parts and members.
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Postby Drano » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:01 am

Thanks Robert.
Yes, in-line for sure. They look just like what I've got in Fathom.

The coils are the main things but yes, the bracket would be a big help. If you have other parts for that assembly (coil stop, plunger, lever etc..) I'll take as much as you have. But, worst case, I may have old ones kicking around that can be refurbished if necessary. I like to squirrel stuff like that away :)

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Postby R.A.B. » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:45 am

Drano wrote:Thanks Robert.
Yes, in-line for sure. They look just like what I've got in Fathom.

The coils are the main things but yes, the bracket would be a big help. If you have other parts for that assembly (coil stop, plunger, lever etc..) I'll take as much as you have. But, worst case, I may have old ones kicking around that can be refurbished if necessary. I like to squirrel stuff like that away :)


Understood, I will bring what I have to accomodate.

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Une règle suivi gueri de tout. A rule respected can cure anything.

A philosophy of doing shall rule til the days when I can no longer "do" arrive. Because when I am too old to wipe my own ass, adjust an AX relay or relieve a woman from sighing, there will be only memories to fill my time. So, the task at hand is to build a RRSP of memories, come hell or calm tides.



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