Need Help With My Bluenote

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Need Help With My Bluenote

Postby Guard » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:17 pm

I'm going to defy my common sense and get my Bluenote ready for Ottawa this weekend. Right now the biggest issue I'm having is once you get a 'shoot again' the ball never advances again. It's 'shoot again' forever.......no extra balls and everything steps through like it should. I have schematics, but my buddy who reads them waaaaaaay better then I, is busy this week.

Can anyone give me a place to start? The FS relay doesn't work as the little plastic arm that turns the wheel is broken, but I think that is for the match......
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Re: Need Help With My Bluenote

Postby Guard » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:21 pm

Or if any EM geniuses want to work on this Friday to have a nice rare game for the show, I'll be there bright and early Friday morning. :ugeek:
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Re: Need Help With My Bluenote

Postby sylvain » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:32 pm

Without the diagram, I would first check the contacts and their gapping on the following relays:
- Extra Ball Relay
- 1st Ball Relay (U)
- through switch at ball exit from outhole
- interlock relays operation and contacts (AX, BX, etc.)

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Re: Need Help With My Bluenote

Postby Guard » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:07 am

So far the switches check out gapping wise........a question, what is this stuff someone has done to the extra ball relay?
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Re: Need Help With My Bluenote

Postby cait001 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:50 am

bring it to the show and be sure to bring schematics.
Worst case scenario we make it play extremely tough so no one gets the Shoot Again. ;)
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Re: Need Help With My Bluenote

Postby cait001 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:57 am

also I would guess that Shoot Again is a self-latching relay that is supposed to be interrupted by a portion of the ball reset cycle, so that would make it easy enough to zero in.
PINS: GTB Super Soccer (lent), GTB Sure Shot, BLY Mousin' Around, WMS No Good Gofers, WMS Triple Strike (loan)
COUNTERTOP: 1934 PAMCO Contact Master, 1936 Bally Challenger (lent), 1934 Rock-Ola World's Series, 1934 Bally Signal Jr, 1934 Bally Signal Sr (lent), 1950 Culp Bridge Ball, 1964 Daiwa Pachinko, 1972 CC Mini-Baseball (loan), 1975 Satomi Arrangeball, 1930 Fields Five Jacks, 1931 Pace Base Ball, 1931 Pace Whiz Ball, 1932 Bally Goofy, 1978 Haiwa Pachinko
WANTED: スマートボール (Smart Ball), payazzo/kronespill, Bell-Fruit Cascade, 1932 Ballyround
backglasses wanted: Fairy, Fire Queen, Out Of Sight
marquees wanted: Dark Planet, Strider, Astro Invader, R-Type (w/ship)
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Re: Need Help With My Bluenote

Postby Guard » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:53 am

Turns out its the trough switch in the shooters lane.
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Re: Need Help With My Bluenote

Postby cait001 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:03 am

congrats
PINS: GTB Super Soccer (lent), GTB Sure Shot, BLY Mousin' Around, WMS No Good Gofers, WMS Triple Strike (loan)
COUNTERTOP: 1934 PAMCO Contact Master, 1936 Bally Challenger (lent), 1934 Rock-Ola World's Series, 1934 Bally Signal Jr, 1934 Bally Signal Sr (lent), 1950 Culp Bridge Ball, 1964 Daiwa Pachinko, 1972 CC Mini-Baseball (loan), 1975 Satomi Arrangeball, 1930 Fields Five Jacks, 1931 Pace Base Ball, 1931 Pace Whiz Ball, 1932 Bally Goofy, 1978 Haiwa Pachinko
WANTED: スマートボール (Smart Ball), payazzo/kronespill, Bell-Fruit Cascade, 1932 Ballyround
backglasses wanted: Fairy, Fire Queen, Out Of Sight
marquees wanted: Dark Planet, Strider, Astro Invader, R-Type (w/ship)
Pinball Women Ottawa -- Ottawa Pinball Map -- repair blog -- game ratings



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