Need help: Stern Lightning no speech *FIXED*

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Need help: Stern Lightning no speech *FIXED*

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Hi everyone, need some help from the classic Sterns crew please.

I may have a flaky connector somewhere or did something wrong so looking for ideas.

I have no speech in game, other sounds are working fine.

What I tried:

1. Ligthtning has no dip switch to turn speech on and off like others of that era so it's not that.
2. Unplugged and reseatted the 2 ribbon cables from sound card to mpu, brand new cables so I assume they are good too.
3. Unplugged and reseated the 3 connectors on the speech card.

So I was sondering if the speech card was faulty but then I did a burn-in test and heard speeches in the test. After that I started a game and she spoke the phrase for player one then went silent again. I noticed the center pf display was flickering when the speech was working, not sure if it's related but it went rock solid again when the speeches stopped.

We will test this board, of course, but meanwhile, does ayone have an idea of what could be causing this if it's not the board itself ?

Thanks.
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Re: Need help: Stern Lightning no speech

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Did the speech ever work since you have the game?

If not, start here maybe:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic ... -no-speech
https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php? ... -100_Usage

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As-tu essayé de débranché le display central ?
The video game i want to play is always the one i don't have :FP:
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HPR Pinball wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:16 pm As-tu essayé de débranché le display central ?
Bonne idée je vais essayer ça.

Sylvain: not since I have put it togheter no. First time I heard a speech was today in the self test and once at my first game after.
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Ask Sylvain Beliveau aka Sly... is the sound specialist here at MAACA!
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redketchup wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:20 am Ask Sylvain Beliveau aka Sly... is the sound specialist here at MAACA!
Je surpris qu’il m’ait pas offert son aide encore :lol:
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Re: Need help: Stern Lightning no speech

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Azatotht wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:33 am
redketchup wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:20 am Ask Sylvain Beliveau aka Sly... is the sound specialist here at MAACA!
Je surpris qu’il m’ait pas offert son aide encore :lol:
Je suis là....Prêt à aider!!!

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We've got speech ladies and gentlemen !!

Thanks to Sparky and Rob for testing my board in Flight 2000 yesterday and making sure the issue was not the board itself.

Also thanks for pointing the possible connectors to check.

Solution: connector J3 on the speech board, pin 3, voice out, was bent upward into the housing and not making contact.

Took it out, bent it properly then back in. Boom, speeches !!

Now to figure out wtf the game is saying :FP: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Need help: Stern Lightning no speech

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Azatotht wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:17 pm We've got speech ladies and gentlemen !!

Thanks to Sparky and Rob for testing my board in Flight 2000 yesterday and making sure the issue was not the board itself.

Also thanks for pointing the possible connectors to check.

Solution: connector J3 on the speech board, pin 3, voice out, was bent upward into the housing and not making contact.

Took it out, bent it properly then back in. Boom, speeches !!

Now to figure out wtf the game is saying :FP: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Je trouve quand même très spécial que mes connaissances n'aient pas été sollicitées... La prochaine fois... vous allez vous débrouiller tout seul!
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Sly wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:49 am Je trouve quand même très spécial que mes connaissances n'aient pas été sollicitées... La prochaine fois... vous allez vous débrouiller tout seul!
:p
Ton point 2 m'a quand-même beaucoup aidé, merci ! :mrgreen:
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