Building my own FATHOM... getting started

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby HPR Pinball » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:56 am

It look great, imperfections for this title is welcome is my opinion.
Fathom is closer than ever and still lot of work, keep up the nice work and pictures update :-)
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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:57 am

Chnillapoil wrote:What kind of paint did you use ?


I've been using artist quality spray paints. I buy these at Curry's Art Supply locally.
There are two brands that are very similar and can be mixed. MOLOTOW and IRONLAK
Both are high pigment and cover very well. I find the Ironlak goes on faster and I find myself needing to use less of it. Between the two brands I can find a lot of colour options.

I can post the actual colour names tonight when I get home if you are interested. I think the quality and the finish are very good and don't look out of place on a classic ss cabinet.

Rob (Spiroagnew) recently posted on his thread about how he used some other type of paints on his 6MDM cabinet repaint. He was able to custom mix colours to order and use a LVLP gun and compressor.

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby redketchup » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:13 pm

Did you used it for the blue, or just the yellow? How many can you use
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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:47 pm

redketchup wrote:Did you used it for the blue, or just the yellow? How many can you use


I used the same paint for all of it to keep things consistent.
Here is what they look like and how much I used:

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Left to Right:

1) IRONLAK - PHAT1 TRUE ROYAL: x4 cans used for entire cabinet; 2 coats inside and out plus apron
2) MOLOTOW - GRASSHOPPER: x1 can for stencils
3) IRONLAK - ENUE'S BONGGG!: x1 can for stencil


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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:20 am

I was looking forward to the weekend so I could get the 2nd and final layer done.
Sadly, the weather decided not to co-operate. Still, I was able to get the main cab stenciled and sprayed just as the first snowflakes started to fall. The head will have to wait another day or two.

I'm very happy with the colour selection and I know Maxime will appove of the generous amount of visible woodgrain :D



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Not much left of the original Fireball II (except for the serial number).
She's come a long way though ;)


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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby HPR Pinball » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:00 am

I'm impressed with the colors ! Great looking vintage pinball :-)
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Postby Chnillapoil » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:24 am

Good work Adriano. I like the way the stencils overlap between coats. I have a set ready to go. ;)
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Postby Fifty » Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:09 am

The colours are beautiful. This thing is really going to pop!

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby HPR Pinball » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:01 am

Here's mine with wear because of the age, that's the way :-)
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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:29 pm

Cool. Thanks for the pic. If I'm adjusting for some aging, I think the colour pallet I used is not far off

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:32 pm

Just a quick update.
I got tired of waiting for the weather to improve... so I just dragged the head cabinet to the shop and did the last layer of paint there.

I have to say that the Ironlak paint seems to be a better product than the Molotow for this application. Better coverage and not so sticky when peeling away the stencil.

So, the plan will be to re-paint the neck next and then start adding in all the hardware and braid so that I can get the cabinet re-assembled soon.


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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:54 pm

It might surprise some people to know that I am very impatient :)

I could not resist assembling this cabinet over the weekend and getting it on legs... despite having almost no room left in my workshop.
Luckily a couple of machines will be moving out this week!

First step was to install new brackets inside the cab. The originals were all rusted out and I have a bunch of these upgraded (reinforced) repros that I used.


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I didn't have the factory grey Bally legs on hand so I threw a chrome set on. I think it looks awesome! It may not be factory, but I suspect I may leave these on the game.


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My next step is to make the grounding panel to line the inside of the back box so I can put all the boards from Fireball II back into the head, make some Fathom spec cards and then finish up the lamp board and install that.

I spoke to Monkeybug over the weekend and there is a small snag in the project.
His spare playfield is missing some parts from two of the inline 3 drop target banks. He'll obviously need those for his playfield swap so it's one more hiccup to overcome.
I figured I'd post this here in case anyone can assist. I need to find the sub-assembly that has the 3 reset coils (with the bell armatures inside) as well as the metal bracket that holds them together.

Here's a pic from Chris showing the bracket his is rebuilding (with parts missing)

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I have this entire assembly from a Bally Special Force. It's not exactly the same era but it looks like an almost exact match. This should cover me for one of the DT banks.
The parts circled in blue are what I need for the other bank. Actually, I can even get the coils... so I really need the plunger/Bell armature and the metal bracket that runs across the 3 coils.
If anyone has something in their parts stash that could help, please shoot me a PM

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FYI:
The coils in the Special Force bank are designates as C-29-1500
The original Fathom reset coils are CV-29-1500

I'm assuming I can still use them (or will repalce if necessary)

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Menace » Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:09 pm

Drano wrote:The coils in the Special Force bank are designates as C-29-1500
The original Fathom reset coils are CV-29-1500

I'm assuming I can still use them (or will repalce if necessary)


Based on the part#'s you've provided I'd be willing to bet these are the exact same coils. Both are 29AWG and 1500 turns. The alpha pre-fix would be the only unknown difference at this point and usually only denote lug locations.

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:31 pm

Menace wrote:
Drano wrote:The coils in the Special Force bank are designates as C-29-1500
The original Fathom reset coils are CV-29-1500

I'm assuming I can still use them (or will repalce if necessary)


Based on the part#'s you've provided I'd be willing to bet these are the exact same coils. Both are 29AWG and 1500 turns. The alpha pre-fix would be the only unknown difference at this point and usually only denote lug locations.

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Cool!
For reference, here is a pic from Chris of the matching assembly on his other Fathom pf.
It 'appears' to be very close if not identical.

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby novaguy » Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:42 pm

Can't say I blame you for wanting to set it up.be a real shame to just have it sitting on the floor and bang something into it.


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Postby Chnillapoil » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:47 pm

Adriano, I'm jealous...
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Postby WARLOCK » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:10 pm

One thing that I have learned over all these years from hanging out with Drano.
As a group, we are all capable of achieving greater things that we could alone.

I blame Mike Wong and Brewmanager for that. Thank you my brothers.
They brought both Drano and myself out of our private worlds, here.

They made us "share" with others.
We are all better for that "push".

Thank you gents.
I owe you all.

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby HPR Pinball » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:39 pm

Fathom with chrome legs look very nice for sure :-)
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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:45 pm

Chnillapoil wrote:Adriano, I'm jealous...



Don't be. You have a complete Fathom playfield :(

I have a cabinet

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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Chnillapoil » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:12 pm

Drano wrote:
Chnillapoil wrote:Adriano, I'm jealous...



Don't be. You have a complete Fathom playfield :(

I have a cabinet


Most parts are badly rusted, a lot of work awaits me.
I'm sure someone in north america has the missing parts you need, chances are good in AT.
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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Sparky » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:19 am

Pretty sure I have that from a Mr&Mrs.Pacman drop target assembly. I will check tonight.
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Postby Azatotht » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:17 am

Sparky wrote:Pretty sure I have that from a Mr&Mrs.Pacman drop target assembly. I will check tonight.


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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Sparky » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:52 am

Azatotht wrote:
Sparky wrote:Pretty sure I have that from a Mr&Mrs.Pacman drop target assembly. I will check tonight.


Don't sell mines for f**k sakes :FP: :lol:


Stop whining you little bitch. LOL

I won't sell what I spent hours polishing. LOL
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Postby Azatotht » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:05 am

Sparky wrote:I won't sell what I spent hours polishing. LOL


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Re: Building my own FATHOM... getting started

Postby Drano » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:00 pm

Sparky wrote:Pretty sure I have that from a Mr&Mrs.Pacman drop target assembly. I will check tonight.


Thanks for looking!!!



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