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You can print new coil wrapper if you want, inkocknito have it in his web site

http://www.pinballrebel.com/pinball/cards/

Have you try the harness in the dish washer... or in the ultrasonic cleaner... result are awesome, but harness need to be completely detach from the playfeild

Nice work, keep the pics and information coming, i like it, thank you
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redketchup wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 7:09 am
You can print new coil wrapper if you want, inkocknito have it in his web site

http://www.pinballrebel.com/pinball/cards/

Have you try the harness in the dish washer... or in the ultrasonic cleaner... result are awesome, but harness need to be completely detach from the playfeild

Nice work, keep the pics and information coming, i like it, thank you
Thanks, I might get someone to print coil wrappers. Haven't had a working printer for many years.

Also no dishwasher or ultrasonic cleaner here! :D I have seen great results with those. My goal here is a little more modest, just to make the game clean enough to work on without getting dirty hands, and so it doesn't get as much dirt on the playfield.
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Most of the rollover and standup switches are now done. To mix it up today I took apart the dirty slingshot mechs:
slings dirty.jpg
The most difficult part of disassembly is the removal of these circlips. I finally found the right tool for this particular application. In other places, with different size clips, other tools are called for. Grasping the entire business with a rag during removal, prevents the clip from flying across the room.
circlip removal.jpg
Finally the dirty parts are collected.
sling parts dirty.jpg
Time passes... then they are clean. ;)
sling parts clean.jpg
Assembly will have to wait for another day.
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Slings assembled; almost forgot to take a pic :)
sling assembled.jpg
And installed.
slings installed.jpg
Super smooth action. I like this slingshot design, wonder why it wasn't used more.
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A small order from Planetary arrived today. First item: playfield protector. I will test fit later when it's more convenient to lower the playfield.
playfield protector.jpg
Second item: new drop target set.
target new.jpg
The game included a small number of well used original targets as spares:
target spares.jpg
I cleaned up one target of each type to compare with a new one. On the left, one of the targets which was installed in the game. Dull colour, peeling decal, rubbery feel - probably not even useful as spares. In the center, one of the original spares. It cleaned up fairly nicely, a bit yellow with age, and weaker construction in some areas - especially the attachment point for the spring, which is very thin.
target compare.jpg
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Drop target teardown is complete.
target teardown.jpg
There are 14 switch stacks in all - one for each of 11 drop targets, plus one standup behind each bank. Here are the switches for a 3-target bank. They are wired together in such a way that I won't be able to mix them up when reassembling. :)
target switches.jpg
There's over five pounds of metal in need of serious cleaning! :( It will probably take at least two boxes of steel wool.
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It was a perfect day to go outside for a couple of hours metal cleaning. Good progress but much more to do. Almost enough parts here to build up 3-target bank, perhaps tomorrow.
target parts clean.jpg
After the outdoor cleaning, the parts need to be polished. Time for a new rag, can't find any clean spot on this one! :lol:
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First target bank assembled. This is just to test everything. It has to be taken apart again to install.
target assembled.jpg
After many false starts, it is finally installed. Parts have to be added in just the right order, or it won't work. Hopefully having this one completed will make the others go more smoothly.
target installed.jpg
It's been a while since the playfield was lowered. Let's check the top view.
target top view.jpg
But wait! The dropped targets are not flush with the playfield!
target too high.jpg
I suspect this is actually a deliberate decision when manufacturing the new targets. A back-to-back comparison shows the new targets have a "nub" on the bottom, not present on the originals. This allows the dropped target height to be adjusted by sanding or filing the nub. Which may be useful with the playfield protector. But it's a real pain in the neck to adjust that target height...
target back to back.jpg
I noticed a missing GI bulb socket, will have to add that later. There is currently no wiring for it underneath.
gi missing.jpg
Nice clean ball trough parts installed.
trough.jpg
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Looking great man...good work!
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Playfield protector test fit. No obvious problems.
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I couldn't stand looking at this rusty lockdown receiver any longer, especially after cleaning the playfield brackets that rest on it.
lockdown rusty.jpg
Disassembled.
lockdown disassembled.jpg
Cleaned. The orange wheel thingy was pretty effective.
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Nice weather, cleaned all the parts for a 5-target bank and a few other bits.
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Busy today. With the lockdown receiver removed, it was a convenient time to clean and rebuild the flipper buttons & switches, and the ball shooter. The buttons were just gross.
buttons dirty.jpg
Normally these would go straight into the garbage, but I forgot to add buttons to the parts order. Fortunately I had some new white button housings which look okay at least for temporary use, and the red inner button part cleaned up reasonably well.
buttons clean.jpg
New button and rebuilt ball shooter.
button installed.jpg
Next up, rebuild the outhole launcher and put it on a plug.
launcher clean.jpg
With that complete, the apron can be replaced. I tried to clean it up a bit, but even the mildest cleaner takes some of the paint off. It's nice to have a rust-free lockdown receiver.
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It was another busy day, but not much to photograph. More metal cleaned, flipper assemblies completely broken down, parts organizing, etc. Finally the 5-target bank is rebuilt and installed. At the bottom you can see a new connector waiting for rebuilt flipper assembly.
target 5 installed.jpg
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After a ridiculous amount of fiddling around, I finally got the last drop target bank installed. At the very end, there is a circlip missing. This is when I remember one went flying during teardown, and has not turned up. :(
target 3 installed.jpg
There's only a few days left of stuff to do before new parts will be needed. Hopefully the shipment will arrive soon.
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Pop bumper teardown complete. All playfield switches now clean and ready.
pop teardown.jpg
Sometimes there are coil sleeves are so dirty, they won't slide freely out of the coil. Time for Frank's super handy coil sleeve extraction tool! :D
sleeve extract.jpg
This tool fits into the end of the sleeve and makes it a cinch to push it out.
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sleeve demo.jpg
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Most of the remaining parts for the top side of the playfield are now polished and ready for installation.
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All playfield coils are clean and ready for new sleeves and labels. Busted t-nut replaced. Plugs ready for rebuilt flipper mechs.
flipper plugs.jpg
At this point I don't think there is anything left to do on the top or bottom of the playfield until the parts order arrives. There are more parts to clean but I may hold off because an ultrasonic cleaner is on the way.

However I am sure to keep busy, because there is still plenty to do inside the cabinet and the head.
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Thanks to Kevin, I now have vinyl decals to hide some of the insert wear.
decal.jpg
The decals come sandwiched between transparent transfer film, and paper backing.
decal peeled.jpg
Here is a good example of insert wear.
insert wear.jpg
Just apply a decal.
decal applied.jpg
Peel off the transfer film.
decal transfer peeled.jpg
And now the worn area is well hidden.
decal done.jpg
This is not an ideal solution; alignment is rarely perfect. But it's an easy improvement that will look pretty good underneath the playfield protector.
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I could swear I posted this already, but don't see it in the thread. Craig printed out some coil wrappers which make things look a lot nicer. Bit of a pain to apply them, but worth the effort. It's just plain paper laminated with clear tape. Before:
coil before.jpg
After:
coil after.jpg
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Most of the decals are now applied. I must have miscounted though because there wasn't enough of one size. :FP: Oh well, there is plenty of time to correct that later.
decals applied.jpg
With that done, I put in the glass and fitted a new beer seal. Typically 1/4" thickness works well, but this time 3/8" gave a better fit.
new beer seal.jpg
Haven't opened the head since the game was setup. The light panel looks like thinly primed wood, not bright white like it should be. Unsure what to do about that, I don't want to get into painting it.
head panel.jpg
Filthy, missing, and mismatched bulbs. Some of these are #55 meant for EM games. These will be replaced with warm white LEDs for GI, and new #47 for controlled lamps.
head bulbs.jpg
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