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Long title for a small bagatelle machine found in a shed.

It’s pretty neat, Canadian made, great cosmetic shape, and a simple looking little project…for sure a conversation piece at least. Thought I’d share some pics.

I like the glass marbles too!

Anybody know any history on these machines/this brand…or heck, ever see this title up and running anywhere?
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Or….an Arcade1up conversion :FP:

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wow, I'm very intrigued. Definitely up my alley.
Do you plan on restoring this machine? I'd definitely be interested in owning it some day. It'd be a great piece to have for future history booths.
(If you want to restore this I'd buy it restored, or I'd buy it and find someone to restore it)
(well, maybe not RESTORED, but definitely getting it working as best as possible. The machine has a few design flaws and will never work perfectly)

I'm going to make some assumptions as i go here, so take this all with a grain of salt.
This is most likely a prototype. Lots of companies existed only for brief moments back then, would assemble a pin table or two, and then vanish leaving only a few scraps of info and prototypes behind. Coin Craft Canada seems to have been around for a number of years, but there isn't much record of them or their machines being advertised.
The gameplay points to like 1934 or 1935 but the cabinet art dates it to late 30s imho. You wouldn't see a lot of multi-colour typography like that until the back-half of the 30s and by then this game would have been mostly obsolete in the market, as backglasses were very popular at the time and features were well beyond this.
The earliest mention of Coin Craft Canada I can (quickly) find is 1936. More on the company below.



Thoughts on the playfield:
The game entirely takes place in the top half of the playfield, and main feature seems to be the bottom animation.
Ball falls in the THREE hole, three balls are sent in the lower bonus area. TWO fires it twice. ONE, the center and side ONEs, each fire the lower bonus once.
Balls that enter these holes would then roll down and could be played again, allowing a player to readily max out their lower bonus.

The center triangle most likely housed a small light bulb.

there are a number of nails missing. I count 8? Not unheard of for that kind of modification to be done with prototypes, but I doubt an operator would remove 8 nails.
It certainly had some play with them in as you can see the "wear halo" around one of the nail holes on the right side showing how the ball's radius wouldn't have have rolled in close to the nail area.

Inserting a coin in and pressing the coin slide should push the baffle-board and drop all of the balls, and also move the Bonus area stopper, allowing the bonus score balls to fall. The implication is that there would be 10 balls in the bonus area, and up to 10 balls to shoot with. (maybe just 7)

The history of 1930s pinball is one of theft and "clever borrowing", but it's odd to see the Peo-brand shooter on the front of this machine.
This is the same lifter + shooter plate you find in a 1934 Peo Pigskin: https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1785&picno=22984
BUT if you look at my research below on the company location, Eric Liebman lived in Crystal Beach which is right by the border by Niagara Falls, which 150 West of Rochester New York, home of.... Peo Manufacturing which existed from at least 1931, but made pin tables from 1934-1936.
So did Liebman purchase their parts and start Coin Craft Canada in 1936 as Peo went away? Who knows! this is all speculation here, but it certainly would make a cool story. :)
having a lower bonus area is something that came up a few times in 1935, and can be seen in Peo's 1935 Travel Around The World https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2635 ... 951&zoom=1 though that game does the far more popular gimmick of shooting the ball-in-play into the higher-scoring bonus field.
The One-Two-Three table here is using half the playfield to just count bonus points, so not very efficient. A similar bonus idea was done by Peo in the 1935 game (sequel to Pigskin) All American Football: https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4948 ... 122&zoom=1
The balls are just bonus counters after all, so it's odd CCC chose to essentially do the same thing with half of the playfield. This Peo backbox bonus count was still popular 40+ years later with a handful of games like Top Score and Super Soccer. https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2443 ... 159&zoom=1

It also appears to be missing a chime/bell as you can see the kicker for it at the back of the playfield underside


Coin Craft Canada appears to have existed from around 1936 to 1948, which is actually far longer than most coinop companies of that era.

1934: Coin Craft Canada does not exist in the 1934 directory: https://archive.org/details/1934Vernons ... 1/mode/2up
1935: Coin Craft Canada does not exist in the 1935 directory: https://archive.org/details/1935Vernons ... 7/mode/2up
1936: Coin Craft Canada first appears in the 1936 Vernon's Hamilton City Directory https://archive.org/details/1936Vernons ... 3/mode/2up
E. Lieberman, mgr. mfrs coin controlled equip, 26 Gore
Liebman, Eric is listed under people, saying he lives in Crystal Beach https://archive.org/details/1936Vernons ... 9/mode/2up
1937: https://archive.org/details/1937Vernons ... 3/mode/2up
COIN CRAFT CANADA
(Eric Liebman), Gordon M Noble Local Mgr;
Canadian Manufacturers and Distributors of Coin Controlled Equipment, 26 Gore, Phone Baker, 7667, After Hours Phone Regent 0632
1938: https://archive.org/details/1938Vernons ... 9/mode/2up
COIN CRAFT CANADA, 26 Gore
1939: https://archive.org/details/1939Vernons ... 1/mode/2up
Coin Craft Canada (Eric Liebman),
Canadian Manufacturers and Distributors of Coin Controlled Equipment, 441 Aberdeen av, Phone2-7667, After Hours Phone 2-9093
1940: https://archive.org/details/1940Vernons ... 9/mode/2up
Coin Craft Canada, 441 Aberdeen avenue
bonus listing from 1940:
Grange Novelty Co., 25-7 King W
1942: https://archive.org/details/1942Vernons ... 7/mode/2up
1943: https://archive.org/details/1943Vernons ... 7/mode/2up
bonus listing from 1943: "GILBOE & FIELDING" which appears to be a phonograph / jukebox company.
1945: https://archive.org/details/1945Vernons ... 3/mode/2up
Coin Craft Canada, 441 Aberdeen av
Gilboe & Fielding, 973 Barton e
Grange Novelty Co, 25-7 King W
1948: https://archive.org/details/1948Vernons ... 1/mode/2up
Coin Craft Canada listed
1949: https://archive.org/details/1949Vernons ... 3/mode/2up
Coin Craft Canada is no longer listed
1950: https://archive.org/details/1950Vernons ... 7/mode/2up
Coin Craft Canada is no longer listed
1951: https://archive.org/details/1951Vernons ... 7/mode/2up
Coin Craft Canada is no longer listed

Going by streets,
1935 lists 26 Gore as https://archive.org/details/1935Vernons ... 7/mode/2up
Griffin Bldg
Gore no longer exists in Hamilton, but the 1935 directory tells us that Gore's North side went from 98 James N, east to Mary.
that puts Gore here: https://goo.gl/maps/cDtGbps599HjDavV8
and Gore is now called Wilson, by my guess.
It'll come as no shock that the Griffin Building now appears to be a parking lot.
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poked a friend (Ethan, one of the main researchers over at https://arcadedocumentary.com/ ) for research and found that Coin Craft Canada had a classified ad in Billboard 1935-10-26:
"CANADIAN OPERATORS - 150 PINS AND Slots, The largest clearing house in Canada."
with the Gore st address
https://archive.org/details/sim_billboa ... +Canada%22

1935-11-2 Billboard https://archive.org/details/sim_billboa ... +Canada%22
the advert has changed to
"CANADA OPERATORS - ABOUT 110 GOOD Used Pin Games. Must make room for our production of two new numbers. First come, first served."
so they sold about 40 of their stock in a week? And seem to be announcing that they're producing their own stuff and not just selling stock



1938-02-19 Billboard magazine Eric makes an appearance:
1938-02-19 Billboard.jpg
1938-12-03 Billboard https://archive.org/details/sim_billboa ... +Canada%22
"CANADIAN OPERATORS - NO CLOSED TERRI-tories for our Free Game Units. We deliver any game this style. Buying all '38 and late '37 equipment"
perhaps an innovation for awarding free games automatically, and they're modifying games with it?


1942, founder Eric Liebman ran into legal trouble in Ontario:
1942 Ontario Provincial Police report.jpg
1942 Ontario Provincial Police report 2.jpg

1946-01-21 Cashbox magazine: https://archive.org/details/cashbox07un ... +Canada%22
Eric Liebman suggests inventing the Internet Pinball Database is a GOOD IDEA
1946-01-21 Cashbox.jpg
1946-02-11 Cashbox magazine: https://archive.org/details/cashbox07un ... +Canada%22
"CASH WAITING FOR
WALLBOXES - Dime or nickjel play 16-20-24 Selections any make, multi wire.
FLEETWOODS - Must be perfect every way!
FOUR ROSES ditto."

jukebox craze?

same ad appears in 1946-02-18, 1946-02-25, 1946-03-04, 1946-03-11, 1946-03-18

1946-08-26: https://archive.org/details/cashbox07un ... +Canada%22
"WANT- Several Sets of Parts complete to change over Panoramas into Solo Vues. Also want Rotary Merchandisers, Free Play Slots and Tables. No Junk Please"
same Aberdeen address given

THIS INTERESTS ME:
1946-10-21 Cash Box https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
"FOR SALE - Canadian Operators! Get those high-power money makers from us. Victory Special; Long Acre; Pimlico; 41 Derby; Club Trophy; Dead Heat; Sport Special; Record Time; Dark Horse; etc. Landed Canadian prices. 60 or 25 cycle operation. We are one ball specialists."

1947-01-20 Cash Box: https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
"FOR SALE - Canadian Operators! We are somewhat overstocked and are selling for some time at U.S. prices with no advance duty, sales tax and excise. Save these items by wiring us your requirements. Everything in 1-balland 5-ball tables right now. "
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1947-01-27 Cash Box https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
they're selling "wall boxes" which I assume are jukes.
anyone know what "25 cycle specialists" mean?

1947-02-10 Cash Box: https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
beginning of the end?
"FOR SALE - CANADIAN OPERATORS: FIVE ROUTES FOR SALE in Ontario's most heavily populated district. Established for up to 15 years. Priced from $3000 to $20,000. All free play equipment and music, most of it licensed. Sold on guaranteed income basis, licensed 1 year ahead."
This is interesting because it implies they've been running routes since 1932 or so.

1947-02-17 Cash Box https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
"NOTICE - All Operators in 25 cycle 110 V. -A.C. Territory! Canadian Operators! Satisfactory performance on 25 cycle can not be achieved by merely changing power packs and motors of originally 60 cycle equipment; other factors have to be taken into consideration. We are specialists of 15 years experience in this line. Consult us."

1947-04-28 Cash box https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
"FOR SALE - Canadian Operators! Twelve year old route in Eastern city with splendid returns and all legal equipment for sale. Contract Music and Free Plays only. Unusual amount of good will and splendid staff with it. $10,000 will handle."

1947-05-05 Cash box https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
same ad as above.

1947-05-12 Cash Box https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
"WANT - For export. Delivery within thirty days. Used Dynamites, Tornados, Stage Door, Canteens, Surf Queens, Four Aces, Arcade equipment of all kinds" etc

in the same issue:
"FOR SALE - Canadian Operators! C C C ceases to operate as of May 15th. Everything is being sold at any price it brings. Hundreds of slots, one balls and five ball games for 60 and 25 cycle operation. PHonos, Hideaways, Wall Boxes, Payout and Free Play equipment. Do not miss this!"

also
"FOR SALE - Canadian Operators! $12,000 worth of parts and supplies used in the operation of music, payout and free play equipment for sale. This is the wind-up of one of the oldest and largest operating enterprises in the Dominion. Also considerable equipment on hand yet. Panorams at a bargain!"


1947-08-25 Coin Box https://archive.org/details/cashbox08un ... +Canada%22
FOR SALE - Manufacturers, distributors, Operators - Attention! Coin machine Plant for Sale and Territory vacant. Coin Craft Canada, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada ceased operating some time ago, is now ready to withdraw from business completely. Model Plant $20,000 Surplus Stock $10,000. This is a Snap.


1948-10-23 Coin Box is the end of the trail https://archive.org/details/cashbox10un ... +Canada%22
1948-10-23 Coin Box CCC.jpg
This would put the founding date of Coin Craft Canada at 1928 which is highly suspect LOL
this cites the WW2 ban on importation, and gives us a perfect segue into North Star storytelling territory! :)
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Great history lesson Cait! Very cool
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Really interesting, thanks for digging all that up Cait.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_frequency
Because the Niagara project was so influential on electric power systems design, 25 Hz prevailed as the North American standard for low-frequency AC.
25 Hz power was used in Ontario, Quebec, the northern United States, and for railway electrification.

I had no idea electricity ran at 25Hz in Ontario and Quebec in the first half of 1900s.
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This ties into the embargo that spurred on the North Star Coin Machine Co. as you mentioned in your last post Cait.

This pre-flipper Canadian company is all news to me, there is so much we have yet to discover. :D

Thanks Hippochrome for showing us this thing and spurring on Cait to do the research once again, just wow !!

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Yeah, they were still converting it to 60Hz in the 1950s. It's not unusual that I come across a conversion sticker on an older service.

It was incredibly expensive as a project because the hydroelectric companies were also responsible for retrofitting any consumer equipment to make it compatible. That wasn't terribly difficult, though. Swap out one motor for another. People didn't have as many appliances in their home back then.

If you run a coil (transformer, motor, solenoid) that was designed to operate on 25Hz on 60Hz, it will often appear as being "tired" - they present more than double the impedance at the higher frequency, and so less current flows. They may turn slower and be much less torquey. They won't be damaged, but they will appear to work poorly. Anything of that age that relies on inductance must be modified. Anything resistive, such as a heating element or incandescent lamp, will operate without difficulty. It's expecting an RMS voltage of approximately 115V, and that hasn't changed much in the last century. Resistive objects don't change impedance with shifting frequency, but inductive and capacitive objects do.

It's interesting to note that electricity itself and what we use it for hasn't changed since we first learned to harvest it: since the beginning, we have used it to make heat, make light, make objects move, and to signal. More than a century later, we still only use electricity to make heat, make light, make objects move, and to signal. The underlying technologies have transformed as rapidly as our civilization has, but the fundamental goals of electrification haven't.
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Hippochrome gonna log in tonight and find the longest response to a "hey everyone look what I found" post ever :D
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Hippochrome: regardless of your plans for the machine (though I would still love to buy it) do you mind if I use your photos to write this into a larger article on my blog?
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This is all so amazing, wow Cait thanks so much for all the info…I’m going to have to re re re-read it all for it to sink in haha. Feel free to use the pics, or I can take some better ones for you. I cleaned the PF a bit more since then…let me know specific shots you want and I’ll email them to you.

I thought of restoring it myself…of course I’m not all that handy, maybe I’d ask around here if anyone wanted an electrics restore job I could hire them for. In my brief research last night on it am I right in I’m thinking that these old things used dry cell batteries for main power? That would make the electrical refurb an easier thing. 90yr old wires in there right now I can only imagine the fire that I’d start playing with those haha.

However, sounds like you’d give it a very nice home…we’ll talk :)

Thanks everyone for taking interest in this cool find, made my day seeing all the comments and excitement around it…pinball rules!

FYI: I discovered it takes pennies in the coin slot, which I found pretty comical

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Sparky wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:58 pm 1- this game is really cool.

2- Man... I miss the history booth at pin shows....
oh do I miss pin shows... gonna just have to start giving tours in my basement :FP:
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Ok so I followed the Peo connection and it turns out the game wasn't a prototype, Peo did make it.
Perhaps Coin Craft Canada imported it and slapped their sticker on it?

1935-11-09: it's important to note that almost everything claimed by manufacturers was always lies.
1935-11-09 billboard peo announcement.jpg
1935-11-16: announcement saying One Two Three will be the first of a series of budget games as part of a ambitious roll-out plan. While any operator can tell you the importance of mixing things up, things seemed to move way faster in the 30s, with games going stale in months and weeks, not years.
1935-11-16 billboard peo announcement.jpg
1935-11-30: the game is available for order, thus confirming this as a 1935 machine.
This ad confirms that the bonus area has 10 marbles, and the game is played with only 5 marbles.
The game was originally made with a backglass, and does not seem to have that flag spring in the bonus area
$39.50 in 1935 is worth $776.15 USD today.
1935-11-30 billbaord Peo 1-2-3.jpg
1936-03-28: One Two Three was released for December apparently, and 4 months later you could already see it advertised as reconditioned for $10. (this ad breaks my heart because Par Golf is a grail game for me)
1936-03-28 1-2-3 reconditioned.jpg
1936-08-22: 9 months after it's apparent release, One Two Three is being liquidated at $4.90, an 88% discount from last year.
1936-08-22 billboard 1-2-3 closeout.jpg
There are many games with variants of "1 2 3" that exist, but up until 1938 I think this Peo is the only one with that name.

I'll have to spend some time looking into Peo exiting the pin business, perhaps there are clues about Peo stock getting bought up by Liebman.
The CCC sticker does say "Made By..." but maybe it was "assembled by"? Or "salvaged by", who knows :)

(also note on the ad Peo is listed as being in Brooklyn NY, not Rochester NY as I previously mentioned. I am not sure yes when they moved between the two locations)

Hippochrome: can you please take photos around the top rail of the machine, and the back? I want to see if this one has holes and/or fade lines that might indicate a mounted backsplash


While it's no "smoking gun", the sales flyer images doesn't appear to have side art. It's probably just a prototype for the sales flyer, but I still stand by my assertion that typography like that would be rare for 1935, which leans me towards my hunch that these were bought in some form from Peo and Coin Craft Canada did the bolder artwork later than 1935.
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I don’t about that Sparky, I’ve made a few pennies off my kid already today…just got to convince him to play it 6000 more times!

And Cait, once again thanks so much for all the info. I especially love seeing the old ads for the game. I’ll post some better pics for you as well. I don’t see any wear or clues of a back sign on it ever…or any wear to suggest that legs were ever screwed onto this machine…guess this was the gameboy of the 1930’s, just stick it in the oversized pant pocket of of your oversized Zutsuit and head on down to the speakeasy.

I added a quicky lockdown bar from a hunk of oak I had laying around, and added a “custom shooter” from an an empty whiskey bottle…all temporary of course, but more complete looking while I poke away at it

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Here’s some more pics Cait. Feel free to use any you please for your blog or IMDb or wherever.
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FYI: The flathead screw on the underside of the cab adjusts the height of the ball kickout platform on the play field
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Hippochrome wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:17 pm I don’t about that Sparky, I’ve made a few pennies off my kid already today…just got to convince him to play it 6000 more times!

And Cait, once again thanks so much for all the info. I especially love seeing the old ads for the game. I’ll post some better pics for you as well. I don’t see any wear or clues of a back sign on it ever…or any wear to suggest that legs were ever screwed onto this machine…guess this was the gameboy of the 1930’s, just stick it in the oversized pant pocket of of your oversized Zutsuit and head on down to the speakeasy.

I added a quicky lockdown bar from a hunk of oak I had laying around, and added a “custom shooter” from an an empty whiskey bottle…all temporary of course, but more complete looking while I poke away at it

Thanks again everyone!
the back of the machine has two visible holes that were most likely the mounting points for the backbox.
there is minor visible fading around leg areas, so they probably were attached but I don't think this machine last more than a year of operation.

Please post updates on progress here! There are lots of people who can assist you with advice every step of the way, and who knows maybe some Ottawa people can give hands-on help too?
Even if it's not truly a Canadian-made game, the story alone makes it... Part Of Our Heritage 8-)

Let us know if you find any kind of text or "makers marks" inside the machine anywhere. All I see is that "81" or "18" inside.

The triangle on the playfield, can you verify that's a light socket? Maybe take a closeup and let us know what you see?
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collected all of my notes over here https://pinballnovice.blogspot.com/2021 ... nadas.html

good time to link to JF's post on North Star http://pindude152.blogspot.com/2016/12/ ... treal.html
and the archived MontrealPinball article https://web.archive.org/web/20191025053 ... link&id=62
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That’s AWESOME Cait! Thank you so much for all the detailed info and write-up, so cool!

I’ll include a better pic of the suspected light socket…from what I can see looking through the hole it’s pretty primitive if it is one, the backside is covered by the ball dropping metal, so can’t get a good view without taking that apart.
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hmmm the ad copy definitely shows some kind of decorative bulb there, guess it's lost to the ages.
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quick update: thank you to Hippochrome, the machine is now mine. And thanks to Xylog who has agreed to take on the restoration duties.

Fingers crossed for future OPGS events where this can be shown off!
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