Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

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Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Chris Silver » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:57 am

It's a stab in the dark that people will see this thread before buying their first pin. I wanted to jot down things that they should keep in mind. Add on if you have any good pointers.

Don't transport with the head up. Take the legs off as well.

Don't think you're doing anybody any favours by painting the cabinet anything other that the original art. Petina is way more preferred over losing a machines identity.

Do lay the backglass on its face when working on the boards. Don't lay it on the painted side. There a good chance you can damage it.

Don't leave the backglass in very cold temperatures and the bring it in. It'll flake and destroy the artwork.

Do remove the playfield glass and give the playfield a solid cleaning. Replace the ball while you're at it. Not only will the game play better, but you'll also greatly extend the life of your playfield. Dirt and a bad ball will wear it away like sandpaper.

These are just a few pointers. Any more good points anyone?
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Azatotht » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:27 am

Do not lay the pf glass directly on concrete and make sure you don't hit anything hard with the SIDE when handling it.. or else you'll have a nice diamonds collection :D
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Chris Silver » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:42 am

Do not oil or grease anything in a pinball machine other than the spinner and shooter rod. You can do what you want to a Time Warp because that game sucks anyway. ;) lol
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Murphelman » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:50 am

Don't change the bulbs with the power turned on!
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Azatotht » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:51 am

Murphelman wrote:Don't change the bulbs with the power turned on!


Or simply raise the pf either :FP: Blown a BSD bridge like that once... :(
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby tombiosis » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:50 am

Check fuse values closely; do not over-fuse.
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Chris Silver » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:10 pm

Do change the batteries if you're not sure of their age.
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby sylvain » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:35 pm

In addition to check all fuses for proper value and type (good advice from tombiosis above: do not overfuse!),

- check and fix any frayed wires inside, poor hacks;
- check and replace the AC plug if its ground prong had been broken-off;
- Turn the machine OFF before unplugging or replugging any connector on boards and displays;
- NEVER use a metal tool to adjust switches under the playfield with the machine powered ON, especially for a solid state machine.

I have seen (then fixed) many machines over the years with prior poor dangerous hacks that were absolutely a fire or electrocution hazard,
or after someone blasted some logic chips on the MPU after using a metal tool under the playfield, shorting solenoid voltage to the switch matrix.

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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby uberhare » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:46 pm

Don't own just 1. Never plan on just 1, make room for 5 or more :)
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Mrhide » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:15 pm

LF: EGRET 2 *FOUND!* + Shoot 'em up PCB. Let me know what you have!
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Mrhide » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:15 pm

Mrhide wrote:https://tuukan.fliput.net/tim_en.html


my favorite is still #6! :lol:
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby WARLOCK » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:27 pm

I love and respect every members opinions on this thread...
I love you all.. You miss the point of the intention of it. ( for someone new )

But are you "insane" and recounting your first purchase? (for this new person)
HMMM>>>>> OP, remember your "first purchase"'? (We are recounting from experience)

It taints our perspective.
Absolutely.

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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby WARLOCK » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:28 pm

Buy what you want.
Buy what you really love.
Don't listen to anyone else at all.
You are the only one that is correct.

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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby WARLOCK » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:31 pm

I could say more - No
I could advise - No

Engage - Your choice
Buy/Sell - You decide

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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby WARLOCK » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:31 pm

All the best
Love the idea's

This is for you
No one else tho

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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Chris Silver » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:07 am

Mrhide wrote:https://tuukan.fliput.net/tim_en.html


A lot of great information there. That guy uses a hell of a lot of exclamation throughout his topics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby andre » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:10 pm

Buy something that is 100% working.
It will break soon enough...

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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Sparky » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:31 pm

Buy something that is 100% broken. Save a bunch of money.
It will break soon enough, even if working. Learn how to fix and save even more money. ;)
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby Chris Silver » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:00 pm

Do remember to grab all the parts before you leave.

Keys, legs, ball, bolts

I've left excited or in a hurry and forgot something before.
Pins: Punk!, Centaur II, Lightning, Af-Tor, Embryon, Black Hole, Elektra, Stellar Wars, 8 Ball Deluxe LE, Timeline, Silverball Mania
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WTB: Black Knight, Spirit, Fathom, Split Second, Nine Ball, Medusa
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Re: Buying You're First Pin - Do and Don't

Postby OTTOgd » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:36 pm

Chris Silver wrote:Do remember to grab all the parts before you leave.

Keys, legs, ball, bolts

I've left excited or in a hurry and forgot something before.

Great recommendation!

Yep, I was too excited as well, once. Forgot the legs. Only another 45 minute drive back east, through traffic again. And then another 45 minutes home. An extra 1.5 hours on the road, at least. ugh.

Don't forget your tools either! I bring small drill, wrenches and screwdrivers for bolts and ground screws.



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