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Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:14 am
by Honey Badger
Don't listen to Phil! :D

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:16 pm
by Drano
I love IJ.
Doesn't Phil think BoP is the best machine ever? :FP:

After owning mine for a very long time I recently dropped in a colorDMD and the PinSound board.
Both have a great impact on the overal player experience. They add a nice new dimension to an already awesome game.

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:38 pm
by Honey Badger
Drano wrote:I love IJ.
Doesn't Phil think BoP is the best machine ever? :FP


I know he loves it and BOP sucks balls.

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:06 pm
by ALJO
Honey Badger wrote:
Drano wrote:I love IJ.
Doesn't Phil think BoP is the best machine ever? :FP


I know he loves it and BOP sucks balls.


He also loves Funhouse and after owning it twice, I think it also sucks......
But we all have our different preferences for games, nobody has the authority to judge if a game IS or Not good, it's different people for different games.
By the way Jason, I still have the Jungle Lord plastic you wanted to have many months ago, remember, it was free?
It's the only pinball part I have left, I don't think I'll ever assist another pinball show so just send me your address if you still want it.

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:17 pm
by Drano
ALJO wrote:nobody has the authority to judge if a game IS or Not good, it's different people for different games.


Where's the fun in that? We'd have to delete half the content on this forum
I'm sure Phil has a good sense of humour. Why else would he prefer BoP over IJ? :lol:

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:05 pm
by ALJO
Drano wrote:
ALJO wrote:nobody has the authority to judge if a game IS or Not good, it's different people for different games.


Where's the fun in that? We'd have to delete half the content on this forum
I'm sure Phil has a good sense of humour. Why else would he prefer BoP over IJ? :lol:


It's was'nt intended to be a fun comment, it's only a fact. :)
Because Phil is NOT a fun guy??? :) ;) Just kidding about that one. :lol:

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:47 pm
by Mrhide
hey, I love IJ .... I think the first time we got the snake pit, it was a BLAST! ... my signature is IJ because I wanted one for so long ... but the meaning has now changed.

the game SUCKS AIR BALLS!! THERE IS NOTHING TO SHOOT FOR AND 1/2 of the playfield is USELESS.



ever wondered why this part is there?! :FP:

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Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:17 am
by Honey Badger
You've got to be kidding me Phil!!! You want to talk about a game that has nothing to shoot for...BOP. The only thing to do in that game is shoot the left ramp. The other 90% of the playfield is completely useless :FP:

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:03 am
by Drano
IJ is a typical fan layout. 2 ramps + 5 other shots (one of them behind the 3 bank of drop targets). This doesn't include gameplay on the upper playfield.
And I don't think I've ever had an air ball on my IJ to be honest.

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:25 am
by Mrhide
Drano wrote:And I don't think I've ever had an air ball on my IJ to be honest.


you're obviously doing something wrong!

hell they even put PLANES in the games since there are so many airballs!!

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:29 am
by Mrhide
Honey Badger wrote:You've got to be kidding me Phil!!! You want to talk about a game that has nothing to shoot for...BOP. The only thing to do in that game is shoot the left ramp. The other 90% of the playfield is completely useless :FP:



forget the bride ... she's awesome for different reasons!


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Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:06 pm
by Mrhide
The problem for me is that this is a WIDEBODY pin yet we play on the bottom half of the playfield 98% of the time. (with 75% of that time beeing between the slings!)

The mode start hole should have a been a scoop... the kick out of it, even after putting the beer seal next to it to prevent it is *very* annoying. The massive airballs from the center targets only contributes to the annoyance. Shooting the ball could have been so much more ... why put a gun if there's no skill shot?! The pops are a waste of time and space. The captive ball shoot is very nice to get, so is the path of adventure. (which can quickly be worth more then the super jackpot!). Favorite mode is "steal the stones!" ... quite the rush with the subwoofer but overall, really not a keeper so it went out quickly. STTNG is a MUCH better machine that can be have for almost half the price.

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:29 pm
by Drano
Mrhide wrote:The problem for me is that this is a WIDEBODY pin yet we play on the bottom half of the playfield 98% of the time. (with 75% of that time beeing between the slings!)


Play better! :P

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:50 pm
by tom_454
Interesting points Phil - especially because I am tempted to get rid of my STTNG (which I quite like) and replace it with an IJ. I have had STTNG for more than 7 years now.

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:35 am
by Azatotht
tom_454 wrote:Interesting points Phil - especially because I am tempted to get rid of my STTNG (which I quite like) and replace it with an IJ. I have had STTNG for more than 7 years now.


Tom, I've had both. Had STTNG for a longer time but at the end of the day, 7 years is a lot in this hobby.

I got bored of all the games I got: TZ, GnR, CFTBL, AFM, IJ, STTNG, etc, etc.. I don't think IJ is bad enough that you should not try it for at least a little while. Especially if you're not playing the STTNG much anymore. There's nothing like owning a game to make up your own opinion, I've learned that early in the hobby.

I really miss the time when these games were affordable and disposable.

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:04 pm
by ALJO
Azatotht wrote:
tom_454 wrote:Interesting points Phil - especially because I am tempted to get rid of my STTNG (which I quite like) and replace it with an IJ. I have had STTNG for more than 7 years now.


Tom, I've had both. Had STTNG for a longer time but at the end of the day, 7 years is a lot in this hobby.

I got bored of all the games I got: TZ, GnR, CFTBL, AFM, IJ, STTNG, etc, etc.. I don't think IJ is bad enough that you should not try it for at least a little while. Especially if you're not playing the STTNG much anymore. There's nothing like owning a game to make up your own opinion, I've learned that early in the hobby.

I really miss the time when these games were affordable and disposable.


True Sylvain, but if my memory is correct you kept TZ for a very long time, a few years I think, am I right?

Re: Williams IJ Kicks Ass

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:22 pm
by Azatotht
Yes TZ and STTNG both stayed a few years but I wasn’t touching them at the end, like the others I’ve kept longer.

I am not a collector, looking at them is not my hobby.