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Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:42 am

Here's something I haven't done in a long time... document a bingo repair journey on here.
The project is a 1957 Bally Show Time bingo machine.

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Still rockin' fishnets at 60! Don't dream it, be it.


The sister machine to Cypress Gardens, It has "Magic Corners", that is, Numbers that move when you have the feature lit.
With only 450 units produced, it's a rare bingo machine to come across.
This is my first moving numbers project.

First and foremost, a heartfelt THANK YOU to Xylog for offering me the machine.

This machine has been around on this forum before it ended up in my hands. Since this Show-Time has a history. I thought it would be fair to document the repairs here.

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Show time front


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Anyone recognize this game?


I started where Rob Xylog left off. I replaced the Mixer motor and put the mixer cams in order. With the mixer apart, I also changed a couple cam levers.

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Mixer motor


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Mixer!


I actually had to refer to one of my old posts for the order of the mixer cams :FP: I read somewhere that posting stuff online is a good way to keep useful information. I guess it works 8-)

Then I replaced the Red button relay coil, the anti-cheat relay coil, the search relay #1 coil, the #3 search relay cage.
Fortunately I have spare parts on hand :-)

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Bin of spare oparts


Next was the wiring. At the top of the door and on the trip bank, there were a bunch of wires with the insulation worn out or just crumbling to bits. So I spliced color matched wires and/or used shrink tubing. shrink tubing. Clean looking :-)

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Trip Bank before


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Trip Bank after


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Top of the door before


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Top of the door after


To be continued...
Last edited by Pindude152 on Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Guard » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:02 am

You folks friggin' amaze me....'
PINS- Target Alpha/ Fire Queen/ Volley/ Tee'd Off/ Rollergames/ Star Trip/ Flip Flop/ Combat/ Flash Gordon/ Capt.Card/Bluenote/ Space Shuttle/Strange Science/Far Out/ Genesis/Bally Circus / Bally Beat The Clock/ Spanish Eyes/ Outer Space/Bronco

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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Patrab » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:41 am

Vraiment Impressionant. Je ne sais pas comment tu fais pour t'y retrouver.

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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:45 pm

Thanks, Merci.
Pour réparer une bingo, il faut absolument le manuel et les schémas. Ils sont disponible en ligne gratuitement.
To repair a bingo machine, you absolutely need the manual and schematics. They are available online for free.

https://bingo.cdyn.com/machines/bally/show_time/
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made of"
-The Maltese Falcon

"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Woody » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:26 pm

Un autre beau projet. Je serais curieux de savoir sur les 450 produitent initialement combien il en reste...
lâche pas !

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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:14 am

Second part

First, more thanks.
Thank you to LittleBrutus, who changed all the fuse clips and part of the 120V. wiring, a long time before I got the machine. It saved me a ton of time... and fuse clips :) Nicely done Sir!

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Fuse clips


Thanks also to Rob ShootAgain for giving me a hand reassembling the game at my place, the head on Show-Time is horrendously heavy.

Back to the repairs... The moving numbers unit

When I got the machine, it was full of hacks. The gear on the motor's output shaft that drives the whole mechanism was some sort of braised weld hack, A large spring was in the wrong place, parts were missing. The thing was a bit of a mess.

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Moving numbers unit before


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Part of a cam lock for a washer


Since Show-Time is a rare game, there are very few pictures of the unit online. No detailed pictures and I did not find a diagram for the unit. Furthermore, It seems Bally did changes between models, I have a Cypress Gardens parts machine with a complete moving numbers unit, but it's different from the one in Show-Time, even if they are sister machines and the moving numbers feature is exactly the same. Finally I figured out something that mechanically makes sense, and more importantly it works, using leather clutch parts like in a bingo control unit.

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Moving numbers unit AFTER


To be continued...
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made of"
-The Maltese Falcon

"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby cait001 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:30 am

WOW!

Can you explain the moving #s mech in a bit more detail?
PINS: GTB Super Soccer (lent), GTB Sure Shot, BLY Mousin' Around, WMS No Good Gofers, WMS Triple Strike (loan)
COUNTERTOP: 1934 Rock-Ola World Series, 1934 Bally Signal Jr, 1934 Bally Signal Sr (lent), 1950 Culp Bridge Ball, 1964 Daiwa Pachinko, 1972 CC Mini-Baseball (loan), 1975 Satomi Arrangeball, 1930 Fields Five Jacks, 1931 Pace Base Ball, 1931 Pace Whiz Ball, 1932 Bally Goofy, 1978 Haiwa Pachinko
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backglasses wanted: Fairy, Fire Queen, Out Of Sight
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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:39 pm

cait001 wrote:WOW!

Can you explain the moving #s mech in a bit more detail?


Ok sure, your request is a bit wide ranging so here is a bit of info on the moving numbers unit. I will indulge the few readers of this thread.

The whole unit is driven by a single motor at the top of the unit. The output shaft on the drive motor is keyed for a leather clutch system. The gear (not keyed, so free moving) on the output shaft is sandwiched between the leather clutch discs and key washers, the whole thing is pressed together by the large compression spring that causes enough drag to spin the gear. The series of idler gears transmits to the movement to the whole unit. The A, B, C, D and E gears drive the magic corners and magic line also have a free gear sandwiched between leather clutched and Keyed washers that drives a shaft that rotated the number carousels.

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Moving number unit


Here is a closeup of the motor and drive gear

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Motor and drive gear


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Mechanism 1


When you have the feature, pressing the A, B, C, D or E energises a index coil. There is a switch on the armature plate that closes the circuit to the drive motor when the coil is energised. The motor starts and is energised as long as the armature hasn't indexed in one of the notches.

When the motor runs, all the gears on the unit rotate including the A, B, C, D and E gears, but only the non indexed cams spin the numbers carousels.

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Index coil


The cams are indexed for the numbers to line up with the lit holes.

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Indexed cam


Here is a front view of the unit.

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Front view


Here is a close up the a rotating number carrousel. The screw in the middle can be undone to remove the whole thing and access the lamps behind. The shaft is indexed with a small pin. When reassembling the unit, you have to make sure you put the carousel in the right position, otherwise, the wrong number will light up.

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Rotating


As for the determination of the winning combinations, the search sequence only "looks" for the 3, 4, and 5 lit sequences. Here is how its expressed in the manual

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Moving number card
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made of"
-The Maltese Falcon

"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby cait001 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:47 am

Thank you! I was wondering about those E discs and how they fit in. The shot with the backglass off displays that perfectly.
Crazy that it is held by a compression string. Does this mean serious adjustment problems 60+ years down the line for the motor transfer?
PINS: GTB Super Soccer (lent), GTB Sure Shot, BLY Mousin' Around, WMS No Good Gofers, WMS Triple Strike (loan)
COUNTERTOP: 1934 Rock-Ola World Series, 1934 Bally Signal Jr, 1934 Bally Signal Sr (lent), 1950 Culp Bridge Ball, 1964 Daiwa Pachinko, 1972 CC Mini-Baseball (loan), 1975 Satomi Arrangeball, 1930 Fields Five Jacks, 1931 Pace Base Ball, 1931 Pace Whiz Ball, 1932 Bally Goofy, 1978 Haiwa Pachinko
WANTED: スマートボール (Smart Ball), payazzo/kronespill, Bell-Fruit Cascade
backglasses wanted: Fairy, Fire Queen, Out Of Sight
marquees wanted: Strider, Astro Invader, R-Type (w/ship)
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Postby Pindude152 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:11 am

cait001 wrote:Does this mean serious adjustment problems 60+ years down the line for the motor transfer?


No, it's fairly low stress. The gears aren't worn out. The carousels and index cams are on a keyed shaft with keyed washers. The leather clutch system is to transmit movement and avoid breakage if something should jam. The only adjustment problems that can happen are at reassembly if certain gears for the "E" line aren't proerly lined up.
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made of"
-The Maltese Falcon

"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Sparky » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:06 pm

Nice to see my old girl get some love!!
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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:22 pm

A bit of troubleshooting...

But first, a bit of recap, the mixer motor was changed, the mixer cams were sorted out, the dodgy wiring was fixed, the 120V section and fuse clips are sound... time to put the juice on the machine.

I plug the machine in, flick on the switch. tha game is all lit up. So far, so good.
I coin up the machine: The balls drop to the trough. A ball is served up to the shooter lane... All is good.
Then I coin up the game a second time: The game does it's spin cycle. I get the magic square feature and the game locks up. The magic square feature unit step up coil is locked up energised. That unmistakable buzzing sound. I turn the game off before the coil fries.

First thing I did was inspect the magic square feature unit disc for obvious shorts, solder bombs, carbon bridges or anything else weird. The unit's disc checks out OK.

Then I consult the schematics

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Show Time Bingo Schematics detail


The Magic square step up coil circuit goes through the Selection feature unit disc...

I have a look at the diagram of the disc in the manual

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From the show time manual


I compare the wiper position on the selection feature unit in the game with the diagram in the manual. Turns out the wiper was 180 degrees off. I reposition the wiper and all is good.

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Selection unit wiper in correct position


Now it's time to play the heck out of it to look for bugs, but first I have to take care of a few details...
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made of"
-The Maltese Falcon

"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:26 pm

Other details...
Like making a replacement ball return panel.
It a tray on which the balls drop on to allow them to roll down to the ball trough on at the start of a new game.

I don't know what happened to the panel that was in my Show Time but it looks almost like it was kicked in or something. Anyway it was no good, the balls would stay stuck on the dent.

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I tried replacing it with a later tray from a magic screen game, but those panels are an inch and a bit shorter than the one used in Show Time. No good.

So I had to make a replacement, here a few pics documenting the process.

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"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made of"
-The Maltese Falcon

"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working on the Banana Yellow Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby cait001 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:26 am

So cool, thanks for sharing
PINS: GTB Super Soccer (lent), GTB Sure Shot, BLY Mousin' Around, WMS No Good Gofers, WMS Triple Strike (loan)
COUNTERTOP: 1934 Rock-Ola World Series, 1934 Bally Signal Jr, 1934 Bally Signal Sr (lent), 1950 Culp Bridge Ball, 1964 Daiwa Pachinko, 1972 CC Mini-Baseball (loan), 1975 Satomi Arrangeball, 1930 Fields Five Jacks, 1931 Pace Base Ball, 1931 Pace Whiz Ball, 1932 Bally Goofy, 1978 Haiwa Pachinko
WANTED: スマートボール (Smart Ball), payazzo/kronespill, Bell-Fruit Cascade
backglasses wanted: Fairy, Fire Queen, Out Of Sight
marquees wanted: Strider, Astro Invader, R-Type (w/ship)
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Postby Pindude152 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:23 pm

Other details...
Like cleaning the switches on the shutter motor.
I take out each switch stack, one at a time. I use a mini brass bristle brush and finish off the points with a flexstone.
Then I re-install the switch stack and actuate the ball shutter cam by hand the make sure the switches are gapped properly.
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With a switch stack in my hand


I swap out a few more worn out parts
Like this part off one of the magnet assemblies on the reflex unit.

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That notch isn't supposed to be there


The the reflex unit wheel ate right through the pawl! Talk about variation in metal hardness :FP:

Fortunately, I have spare used parts on hand.
Nowadays, looking for replacement bingo parts means looking in junk machines and plastic totes full of parts from parted out games but back in 1959...
You just had to fill an order form

Here are pages out the Wico 1959 parts catalog: The Bally section is almost all bingo parts
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Those were the days
Wico parts catalogs from the 60's and 70's had bingo machine parts too

Until they were outlawed, bingo machines were good money makers.
Just the fact that parts distributors carried bingo machine parts well into the 80's says a lot. I have a 1988 Banco parts catalogue that had the bingo machine essentials.
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"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby cait001 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:02 pm

love them catalogues, a wealth of info!
PINS: GTB Super Soccer (lent), GTB Sure Shot, BLY Mousin' Around, WMS No Good Gofers, WMS Triple Strike (loan)
COUNTERTOP: 1934 Rock-Ola World Series, 1934 Bally Signal Jr, 1934 Bally Signal Sr (lent), 1950 Culp Bridge Ball, 1964 Daiwa Pachinko, 1972 CC Mini-Baseball (loan), 1975 Satomi Arrangeball, 1930 Fields Five Jacks, 1931 Pace Base Ball, 1931 Pace Whiz Ball, 1932 Bally Goofy, 1978 Haiwa Pachinko
WANTED: スマートボール (Smart Ball), payazzo/kronespill, Bell-Fruit Cascade
backglasses wanted: Fairy, Fire Queen, Out Of Sight
marquees wanted: Strider, Astro Invader, R-Type (w/ship)
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:06 pm

We are ready for the floor show!

Testing the Show Time with a handful of Nickels and Yuengling lager on a Friday night.

A tutorial on how to play this beast is in the works.

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"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made of"
-The Maltese Falcon

"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Xylog » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:34 am

Grats!

Looks awesome
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby R.A.B. » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:19 am

Pindude152 wrote:We are ready for the floor show!

Testing the Show Time with a handful of Nickels and Yuengling lager on a Friday night.

A tutorial on how to play this beast is in the works.

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Amazing detailed work as usual J.F.

You da man for this kind of work and also for digging up technical details in books and elsewhere to get it as right as possible. This (like pinball) was a business way before it was a hobby and most collectors forget that and often spew bullshit on the web about what they think they know and what they think they understand as some kind of truth. Sometimes it gets scary when they act on bits of info instead of getting as close as they can to understanding before taking the tools to the machines. But not you, you have a sense of history and respect for what came before and use it as a starting point, which is the right way to understand something from the past. Getting the context around something that is long gone the closest you can to what it was is the best starting point for exploring an object or situation from the past and again, increasing the chances at understanding it with the right mindset. You question and act on the possible answers with caution and I think that is the best approach. The fact that you do this with these electro-mechanical computers is something I have a lot of admiration for and could never find the patience and focus for in my present context. I live and work in the business side of this industry and it has for some reason become less colourful to me in 2017.

This is a wonderful mid entry bingo for those who want to get hooked in (pun intended for those who have looked into the past), my favorite years for bingos are really "53 to '58 or so. They all got something interesting, but Showtime and Key West were the most fun bingos I personally ever sat down to with a roll of nickels and a few beers.

Thanks for extending the bingo machine culture into a later era for which the actual contextual info is not always so easy to dig up due to that thief time.

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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby WARLOCK » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:03 pm

Well done J.F. and a great read.

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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby cait001 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:33 pm

Amazing job. How did the testing go?
PINS: GTB Super Soccer (lent), GTB Sure Shot, BLY Mousin' Around, WMS No Good Gofers, WMS Triple Strike (loan)
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Woody » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:44 pm

Super belle job!

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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:25 am

Thank You Robert for the encouraging words and you support. Thanks for taking the time to write it here. I appreciate it. I owe you a beer and a hug. Cheers!

cait001 wrote:Amazing job. How did the testing go?


So far so good. No issues or complaints. It's a fun and addictive game, If you manage to get the A, B, C, D and E moving numbers and the "Press buttons AFTER shooting 5th ball" feature, you can really rack up the credits. Get multiple winning combinations on different colored lines by moving the numbers around.

Thanks Scott, Rob (Xylog) and Stéphane. Glad you guys followed this little bingo repair journey.
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Bally: Gator, Mad World
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby semicolin » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:50 pm

Awesome work JF!
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Re: Working Bally Show Time Bingo

Postby Pindude152 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:19 pm

So… How to play Bally’s Show Time bingo machine

It’…

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Let’s start at the very beginning:
A bingo machine is a type of gambling machine that was popular in the 50’s all the way to the 70’s.
Bingo machines are the games that gave [flipper] pinball a bad name.

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Full Backglass


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Playfield (Yes, I have the wrong SI cards)


The object of a bingo game is to light, by landing 5 or more balls in numbered pockets, a continuous sequence of 3, 4 or 5 numbers on one of the predetermined lines on the card to win credits. Won credits are added to the credit meter. Balls that make it all the way down the playfield and drain are returned to the shooter lane to shoot again until all 5 balls have landed in a numbered pocket.

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Ball return


Back in the day if you won enough credits, usually 200 or more, you could have your credits paid out by the manager of the fine establish in which you were playing. Some games were 5, 10 or 25 cents per credit. That's the dodgy part of it that made the bingo games illegal. And the fact that they raked in a ton of money that the government couldn't get their hands on.

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Credit display


To reset the credits back to zero, turning Off the game and back On again would start a credit reset sequence. The credits rapidly roll back to zero one at a time.

What makes it a gambling machine is that before shooting your first ball, you can put in an unlimited number of coins (one at a time) for the chance of activating (winning) extra features that "improve" your chances of winning or getting better odds.

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Front of the machine


By odds I mean how many credits the machine will award you if you do get a 3, 4 of 5 in line. Show Time has 8 odds steps ranging from 75 credits for a 5 in line to 600 credits for the same 5 in line.

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1st and 2nd odd steps


Example: The first odds step

75 credits for a 5 in line
16 credits for a 4 in line
4 credits for a 3 in line

Show Time also has coloured lines. Notice how the lines on the card are either Red, Yellow or Green. These go with the three coloured sets of odds.

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Show Time Card


Next post, I will go through the features.
"It's heavy. What is it? ... The, uh, stuff dreams are made of"
-The Maltese Falcon

"Every ball for me's another game.For you this always looks the same [...]
I know for you this doesn't look a lot. For me this is the only thing I got"
-Yello - Pinball Cha Cha

"He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life"
-Homer Simpson

Wanted: Bally 20 hole Bingo machine: Orient, London, Safari, Super 7, Bonus 7 or Hawaii.
Bally: Gator, Mad World
Williams: Pot 'O' gold
Rally Play Company of Nice France: Any Flip Tronic(s) era machine produced between 1966 and 1969


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