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(I want to preface this by saying I am actively looking for Smart Ball, Pajatso, Payazzo machines. Please let me know if you stumble on one of these...)

Semicolin recently introduced me to the existence of Smart Ball, an older Japanese arcade game that is kind of like Pachinko in slow motion.



I just love games like this and would definitely want to buy one or two if ever possible.


I have also been super in to pajatso / payazzo since trying them at Fun Spot a few years back.





What I love about these machines, and 70s pachinko, is how much is done purely mechanically. I love the non-electric bagatelles. and for me these are even better.

While the game does have a single motor, the 1937 Rockola World Series is a mechanical marvel in how it tracks strikes, outs, scores, etc.
highly recommended watching:


I'll never own one of those but a gal can dream.
I still would like a fancy bagatelle at some point.



Anyways, I've mentioned this before I think, but the reason this isn't just a WTB post is because I wanted to re-share the magic of Jollyball.
Jollyball now resides at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry, but it was commissioned for Expo 86 in Vancouver, where I discovered it as a young kid.
https://www.msichicago.org/explore/what ... olly-ball/
watch a full run:


I pretty much credit Jollyball entirely for instilling my loves of mechanical marble machines.
It was made by Charles Morgan who has turned the medium into an artform. http://morgan-art.ch/atelier_1


Just wanted to share this all, and put out any feelers for a Japanese Smart Ball, or Finnish Payazzo, for some day...





and hey if you're ever bored, DIY Marble Run youtube is a rabbit hole worth wasting a few evenings on

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I just spent $3K on airline tickets *just* to play smart ball. That's how hardcore I am. That said, I'll ask the owner of the parlour if she has any to sell, and I'll get a quote from Japan Post.

Pretty sure the right way to ask is:
すみません、ダブルマヨネーズでケチャップの魚を買ってみたいと思います。
"Sumimasen, daburumayonēzu de kechappu no sakana o katte mitai to omoimasu."

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Thanks Cait and Colin. I did not know about Smart Ball.
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The sideways coin pusher is cool ! (pajatso / payazzo ?)
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Ha, fascinating machines!

Re payazzo / pajatso... I had spotted one of these in a crazy Finnish film called "Jackpot 2", which I wrote about in my blog post here: http://pinballspotting.blogspot.com/201 ... -1982.html

At the time, my quick research had only led me to the name "drop case machine" [ see http://www.melright.com/slots/dropcase.htm ]. Now I can update my post with the proper name!

BTW, excerpts of the crazy film, including the guy playing the payazzo can be seen in the pinball supercut at the North Star, which I've been adding stuff to the last couple of months.

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JamesSchid wrote:Ha, fascinating machines!

Re payazzo / pajatso... I had spotted one of these in a crazy Finnish film called "Jackpot 2", which I wrote about in my blog post here: http://pinballspotting.blogspot.com/201 ... -1982.html

At the time, my quick research had only led me to the name "drop case machine" [ see http://www.melright.com/slots/dropcase.htm ]. Now I can update my post with the proper name!
Cool! Yeah I don't think they spread too far outside of Finland, and they are def some of my favourite "drop case machines". I guess another example in that category would be the skill roll machines. Much more common in Japan, but Bally had some too http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/bskillr.htm
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Here's an article about the last smart ball parlour in Tokyo: https://www.dampfkraft.com/by-id/4439a4fe/

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semicolin wrote:Here's an article about the last smart ball parlour in Tokyo: https://www.dampfkraft.com/by-id/4439a4fe/
Oooo they have Arrange Ball as well! pindude152 was telling me about similar Arrange Ball machines.
If there are so many broken ones, maybe they'll sell? ;)
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Cool parlor! Nice to see a row of arrange a ball games in their natural environment.
Crazy to think all these games. Pinball, bingo, pachinko, smart ball are all descendant of bagatelle.
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Resurrecting this thread to talk more about arcade oddities from around the world...

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Cool! I was addicted to those "Payazzo" (didn't know that name!) games whenever I was in Norway as a kid.
Would love to get one of those if they are available anywhere!
I have an Addams Family Values coin drop game which always reminded me of those machines but it's not as much fun to play.
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shinynick wrote:Cool! I was addicted to those "Payazzo" (didn't know that name!) games whenever I was in Norway as a kid.
Would love to get one of those if they are available anywhere!
I have an Addams Family Values coin drop game which always reminded me of those machines but it's not as much fun to play.
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They were most popular in Finland, though there were models from Norway and Germany and a few other countries. They are apparently rather obscure to get as in the aughts the government of Finland destroyed a lot of them. They were, since the 1930s, controlled by the government as sanctioned gambling to benefit a national charity.

If you want to play them again, Fun Spot has a few.
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also can you post video of your Addams Family Vales coin drop game?
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more on unique arcade pieces, here is an incredible collection of photos from British Arcades, primarily the first half of the 20th century.
The history of this hobby is the history of gambling laws, and the need to innovate around them.
In America, with federal gambling crackdowns and many many hyper-local gambling laws to attempt to evade, gaming flourished in styles and gameplay. Pinball took off as the "games of skill" flourished legally.
Judging by the photos, it seems Britain did not have the same gambling restrictions, and so if something's making you tonnes of money, why change it? We see plenty of gambling and skill-gambling devices in these arcades, almost no pins!


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here is the one bagatelle i own(besides williams apollo late 30s all mechanical baseball . the kick and catch i found in an antique store in the spring , i was there on the saturday with the gf and well i returned on monday to possibly buy it for $300 but it was gone. i have seen a few of the kick and catches knowing a couple of friends that own them so i dont think that rare. one id like to find , is a pikes peak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qkbnUB-VSM
i saw one in ottawa the gentleman actually had for sale but he had commited to someone to purchase it . he did have one for parts though
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singlezero wrote:here is the one bagatelle i own(besides williams apollo late 30s all mechanical baseball . the kick and catch i found in an antique store in the spring , i was there on the saturday with the gf and well i returned on monday to possibly buy it for $300 but it was gone. i have seen a few of the kick and catches knowing a couple of friends that own them so i dont think that rare. one id like to find , is a pikes peak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qkbnUB-VSM
i saw one in ottawa the gentleman actually had for sale but he had commited to someone to purchase it . he did have one for parts though
The Pike's Peaks game drive me batty with frustration. :)
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Pike's Peaks looks an awesomely simple challenge.

Gimme!

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OTTOgd wrote:Pike's Peaks looks an awesomely simple challenge.

Gimme!
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the pikes peak i saw had been listed on kijiji lst year in ottawa . i was buying a williams riverboat from the gentleman and he showed it to me but said if the woman from toronto didnt get it i could buy it . i checked back a few days later with him and he said it was gone. he had been asking 400 for it

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So nifty.

Perfect score on Groetchen Pike's Peak 1941

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This one is on Kijiji.
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-art-collectible ... nFlag=true

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